[大家爆料]关于北京老外强奸门事件,在中国的老外们的说法。。。。

  这位楼主同样是贴老外的评论,还给出了出处和原文,并且翻译,大家对比一下:https://tuoshuiba-image.oss-cn-hangzhou.aliyuncs.com/system/tybbs/publicforum/content/worldlook/1/474684.shtml
  然后自己判断楼主真假
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  额,看了你这个链接,其中大部分在中国生活过的老外不都是跟我认识的老外一个态度,矢口否认,还侮辱中国女孩都想跟他们上床,诈骗什么的。。。。在中国呆过的老外的思维都是一样的,没看出任何不同。

  我认识的老外也有正义的,不过是少数派。
  作者:非红茶 回复日期:2012-05-11 22:51:06  回复

  ……虽然楼主你口口声声在鄙视痛骂那群“老外”的信口雌黄。可我从你的帖子里,你的语句中,只深切感受到你要表达的主题其实和你开的那个17元泡妞的主旨是一样的。


  人渣的行为到了哪里都是人渣。外国人也没这么不分是非的。哪怕他心里有什么想法,但只要智商正常,就不会当面对着你说出如此无理甚至可以说侮辱的话来。说白了,他们也会伪装得道貌岸然。

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  看来你还是根本对老外就不了解,老外是道貌岸然,但是他们都觉得自己是正义一方,根本不觉得他们这样说侮辱了中国人。老外根本不觉得说那个姑娘是鸡说中国人诈骗有什么不对的,他们感到自己很正义.

  他们认为那个英国人是受害者,那个姑娘是妓女,听明白么?

  老外认为是中国人要加害于他们,捏造的事件,你真的不明白也可以看看这个链接,很多老外在中国呆过的,就是不相信这是强奸事件。

  www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/worldlook/1/474684.shtml
  大家看比如那个贴,没来过中国的老外大部分人品很端正很正义,都是骂强奸犯的,但是在中国混过有的是在泰国混过的垃圾人渣外国人大部分认为这事儿是敲诈或者捏造;或者说中国坏话。甚至侮辱这姑娘是小偷,额,我认识的外国人里还没有说姑娘是小偷的。

  She may well be a pro; or not. There are millions of young Chinese women pros walking the streets because they are poor and they want what capitalism brings. I was even accosted by one while walking with my wife!! He obviously should be dealt with heavily for any abuse, but I wonder what the full story is? - Kuri, UK, 10/5/2012 15:54+++++++The story is that a young Woman has been beaten by a Man. If she is a prostitute, does this mean that he has the right to do this to her as you insinuate?
  这女的也许是职业的,谁知道呢。中国有无数这种职业的女人在街上游荡,因为贫穷,她们想要钱。甚至有一次我跟我老婆在街上走着还碰到过一个女人上来勾引我!!显然这个男人该被严惩,但我好奇事实的真相到底是什么?Kuri, UK,

  There used to be a scam in Hong Kong where a woman would demand money off you and when you didn't give it she would shout and scream the place down...then a gang would turn up and kick the hell out of you....You would then pay to get away....just a thought....
  以前在香港有个诈骗手段,一个女性会向你讨钱,如果你不给她就会大声尖叫并报警……然后会有一伙人突然跳出来狂扁你……然后你必须花钱消灾……只是我的一个想法……


  Obviously what he was doing was terrible, and it's a good thing the men saw what was happening and he'll now be arrested. BUT, are you aware how the Chinese treat their own women and children? Before people condemn 'all Brits' and go overboard with the 'good on you, China' have a look online at the videos of women, children and animals suffering there. A few weeks ago there was a video of a 2 year old girl being RUN OVER repeatedly in a side street in Guangzhou (I've been, horrible place) and nobody did a thing. People just going about their business, ignoring this little girl. I'm in agreement with the men who beat up this loser, but people should understand China isn't exactly a country that loves women, children or animals! These were a few decent men.
  显然这个男人的行为太令人发指了,好在有人看到他的罪行,而且他已经被逮捕了。但!是!,你们意识到中国人自己是如何对待他们的女人和孩子的么?在你们声讨“所有英国人”鲁莽的称赞“干得好,中国”之前,上网看看在那片土地上女人,孩子和动物都遭受了什么样的待遇。几个星期前,在广州(我去过那儿,一个恐怖的城市)有一个视频拍摄了一个两岁的小女孩在街边被来往车辆反复碾压,没人去救她!人们事不关己高高挂起,无视这个可怜的小女孩。我很欣赏那个狂扁这人渣的人,但是我们应该知道,中国,绝对不是一个善待女性,孩子和动物的国度!在那里正直的人只是少数!

  I don't think we should lose sight of the fact that the Chinese govt has a long history of propaganda use, and given recent events concerning the alleged murder of a British businessman by a senior Chinese official's wife, this may very well be something along the lines of a face-saving exercise by the authorities.
  我不认为我们应该忽视这个事实,中国政府在利用宣传造势这事上有很长的黑历史,结合最近的英国商人被杀事件来看,这很有可能是官方为了面子而炮制的。

  Am I the only person who actually looked up the video and analysed it? There are a few versions of it on you tube, but in every one of them, the 'victim' grabs the "assailant's" crotch right before she stops crying, right before she stands up and runs off with his wallet. All the 'heroes' are wearing black shirts. Chinese Mafia (Sponsored by the Daily Democratic Mail").
  难道我是唯一一个看完这个视频后分析了的人?在有土鳖上有很多版本,但是在每个版本上,这个“受害者”抓了一下这个“攻击者”的胯部,就在她停止哭喊的那一刻,在她站起来跑掉的时候她手里拿了那男人的钱包。所有的“英雄”都穿黑衣服。中国的黑手党
  Having spent time in Beijing I was accosted every day by women pretending to want to practice English but were offering sex. It was non stop and very often I had to be rude to get rid of them then they got very nasty. First of all it is illegal there and that is why the use the practising English as an excuse. If this person did assault her then he deserves the punishment but lets see all the facts, this video starts off with her crying and a Chinese man talking to the Brit. Then there is a fight and then he is on the road with another person trying to kick him. This is staged and looks like a setup. Until all the facts are known we cannot judge and that is why we are democratic and the Chinese are communist !
  在北京的那些日子里,我每天都被那些声称着想要跟我学英语实际上只想上床的女人骚扰。这种事从没停过,而且我不得不十分粗鲁的摆脱这些女人。首先,卖淫在中国并不合法所以她们常用练习英语的借口搭讪。如果这个男人真的强奸了她那么他需要被惩罚,但是让我们看清事实,这个视频以这个女人的哭叫开始,接着中国男人上前跟这个英国人说话。然后一场恶斗他倒在马路上,此时还有另一个人想上前去踹他。这像是演的而且是设计好的。直到真相出来之前我们不应该武断判定,这就是为什么我们是民主国家而中国是专制独裁的共产主义社会!
  At first I thought poor girl but then I looked at the first few seconds over and over again and one has to question why if she is so upset why she has her legs wrapped round his waist ... My points 1 man strolls over to help her not rushes 2 yes man is standing between her legs but is not touching her 3 when helper speaks to accused he just seems confused 4 at this point said victim wraps her leg round accuse and taps his midriff then pushes away and stands with something in her hand 5 man leads accuse away ( who follows quite haply) then the assault begins 6 video is cut then comes back on with him lying in a road with ppl beating him a bit and police are there while it's happening If this man is guilty then he must be punished but I think something duz not add up .. Tourists have been targeted by criminal gangs before that's just what I think from the evidence so far.. Watch the vid then correct me but not before
  一开始我还在想哦多么可怜的女孩,但当我一遍又一遍看这个视频的时候,问题出现了,为什么她看上去这么难过,为什么她的腿缠着这个男人的腰……我的看法是,
  1这个男人是闲逛的时候想去帮她并不是要跑。
  2,是的男人是站在她的两腿中间但是并没有碰她。
  3,当见义勇为的上前想要制止时这个男人显得很困惑。
  4,在这时这名自称受害者的女性把腿缠上,而且轻拍了一下这个男人的腹部然后推开他站起来,这时候她手上有什么东西。
  5,男人被拉走(被很巧合出现的人)然后打斗开始
  6,录像被剪辑了,然后出现了男人被打倒在地上,人们还想上去揍他,这时候警察已经到了。
  如果这个男人犯罪了那么他该抓,但我总觉得有些事说不通,目前的证据看来我认为是针对游客的团伙欺诈犯罪,你可以看完视频后来指正我的说法。
  she totally has his wallet and hands it to him and she gets up and he starts to walk away! this was probably a situation where she was a prostitute and he was drunk, there is no way that was a rape. she was saving face by claiming rape. why else would someone in full view do that and hmm...someone just happens to walk up with a video camera? how convenient. FAKE FAKE FAKE
  她手上甚至已经拿了这个英国人的钱包,然后她起身跑开!这种情况只可能是这女的是个妓女,而且这个英国人喝醉了,这不可能是个强奸案。她为了脸面声称这是场强奸。为什么会有人录像……恩,只是碰巧路过的人带了摄像机?太巧了吧。假!假!假!
  I agree the woman has what appears to be a wallet in her hand. Just as she moves out of camera she appears to be smiling. This trick has been used in Thailand and no doubt elsewhere. The footage is too grainy to be sure but the attack on the man looks odd. It lacks the force one would expect from an enraged crowd. In the first footage the Chinese man can be heard saying alright boss alright boss. The average Chinese doesn't use that kind of talk or have that much command of English. I smell a rat.If I am wrong so be it but this looks like a profesional job for financial gain.
  我同意这女的偷了这男的钱包。她在镜头里一闪而过的时候看起来像是在笑。这把戏在泰国很多毫无疑问全世界都有。这个剪辑看起来很有条理像是真的但是殴打那段很奇怪。围观群众里缺了能把他打倒的人。在刚开始的那个中国男人听起来再说alright boss alright boss。平常的中国人并不这么说话,他们对英语没那么精通。我觉得有猫腻。如果我错了那就顺其自然吧但是这看上去真的很像是一场为了金钱而设的骗局

  Any of you men been to China then watch out for the card slipping and harrassment from prostitutes wanting sex particularly targeting white men. I found it fascinating to watch and very worried for innocent men being targeted - innocent until proven guilty. If you haven't been there don't opinionate!
  任何想要去中国的男人注意了,小心那些把百人当目标的妓女问你要钱想跟你上床。看上去很美好但是要我很担心那些无辜的人被骗—在判罚有罪之前都是无辜的。如果你从没去那里那就忽略我说的吧。
  那个贴里大部分没混过中国的老外都很正义,混过中国的老外大部分认为女孩是妓女。
  
  作者:非红茶 回复日期:2012-05-11 23:07:19  回复

  @我在旅程 2012-05-11 22:57:09
  作者:非红茶 回复日期:2012-05-11 22:51:06  回复
  ……虽然楼主你口口声声在鄙视痛骂那群“老外”的信口雌黄。可我从你的帖子里,你的语句中,只深切感受到你要表达的主题其实和你开的那个17元泡妞的主旨是一样的。
  人渣的行为到了哪里都是人渣。外国人也没这么不分是非的。哪怕他心里有什么想法,但只要智商正常,就不会当面对着你说出如此无理甚至可以说侮辱的话来。说白了,他们也会伪装得道貌...........
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  冷笑,我算是明白为什么他们不觉得说的话是侮辱了。

  因为有你这种“同事”!!

  你贴的链接,出现怀疑妓女圈套的根本只是少部分好吧!又是在网上,当然能肆无忌惮地乱说话!

  这莫非就算你说的“老外们的说法”吗?我怎么看到的是希望严惩以及对自己国家法制不力的抱怨?

  你心里只有什么,看到的就只有什么。你发帖的目的,依旧是挥舞一杆中国很多女孩子不自爱的大旗。

  呸!

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  因为他们是在英国的英国人,你仔细看看那些到中国混过的老外的回复,大部分跟我认识的老外是一个调调的。
  有的人,你不了解LZ发帖的用意,LZ对侮辱本国女性一点兴趣也没有。

  今天下午跟老外争论过,你们给我省点力气,不要为无聊的事跟LZ吵闹了,

  上海的老外,很多真的就认为女的是妓女,老外是受害者。
  额,随便有的姑娘怎么理解或者曲解吧,你有的时候未免把人心揣测的太恶毒了。。。又忽视真相不相信事实。
  作者:谁家青蛙叫 回复日期:2012-05-12 20:09:57  回复

  @草莓夹心派 2012-05-11 09:11:26
  站街女干嘛要去找老外?没骨气的…害的现在那些人品有问题的老外觉得被qj的女的是有意去勾引…靠,突然很想飚国骂诶…

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  就算是站街,只要那姑娘不愿意了,这种事情也是不允许发生的吧!到底是什么才会让那些老外萌生能够为所欲为的感觉?
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  。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。大哥,那姑娘不是站街的,LZ跟老外解释一天了,真累。
  国人就不要再说这种话了,LZ很想知道那姑娘的职业,好告诉老外们,那姑娘真的不是站街的,人家是正经人家的姑娘。。。。
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